A Conversation with an Idolater
The record quoted below comes from comments posted beneath a video talk entitled “How a God Died — Robert Gajdziński” on YouTube Link dated 24 April 2020. I posted a comment beneath the video, to which someone who was probably a priest of a Christian sect responded. I present the entire discussion here, including my final post about Monasticism, which was deleted by NTV.
Please note the manipulative techniques used by Paweł M. to divert attention from the essential issue — idolatry. Half of his posts consist of refuting my statement in the context of the First and Fifth Commandments, even though I repeatedly write about Commandment No. 2. I remember that on the former CUD-portal forum, I conducted similar disputes for many years with devotees of Hindu Gurus who delighted, among other things, in the lingams, or penises, of their deified teachers. In my conversation with Paweł M., I did not address side issues such as Jesus’ claim that he had already fulfilled the Law and was giving a new law — his own. Many people interpret this in the same way as Paweł M.: since the law is Newer, it must also be Better, and therefore the prohibition against idolatry mentioned in the Second Commandment no longer applies to anyone.
Sławomir Majda
It is a pity that Mr Robert did not read the Second Commandment of the Decalogue, which prohibits idolatry. The wording of this provision has not been changed. It is similar with criminal law and other laws. A paragraph states that the punishment for a particular offence is to be no less than five years. The fact that Jesus claimed that the Decalogue no longer applied is his opinion. The Decalogue still contains the following provision: “8 You shall not make for yourself a carved image or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or on the earth beneath, or in the waters under the earth. 9 You shall not bow down to them or serve them.”
Paweł M
And where does Jesus state that the Decalogue no longer applies? After all, in the Sermon on the Mount, in Chapter 5 of Matthew, he bases his teachings precisely on the Decalogue, expanding upon it and saying, among other things, that one does not have to kill another person in order to violate the Fifth Commandment.
Sławomir Majda
Please familiarize yourself with several versions of the Decalogue Link. The version of Moses prohibits idolatry, but the Christian version no longer does. Let me remind you that the text was changed only in 1917.
Paweł M
The Christian version also prohibits idolatry; even the Apostle Paul wrote about it. How can you claim that Jesus said the Decalogue was no longer valid…. That would mean that from then on he permitted stealing, killing, committing adultery or blaspheming against God and one’s parents.
The Catechism of the Catholic Church contains the full version of the Decalogue. They simply shortened the First Commandment so that it would be easier to learn: “You shall have no other gods before Me.” That is easier to remember than:
“You shall have no other gods beside Me! 4 You shall not make for yourself any carved image or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or on the earth beneath, or in the waters under the earth! 5 You shall not bow down to them or serve them, for I, the Lord your God, am a jealous God, punishing the sins of the fathers upon their children to the third and fourth generations of those who hate Me. 6 But I show mercy to the thousandth generation of those who love Me and keep My commandments.” If this commandment is supposed to prohibit making images of animals or people, that would mean that everyone breaks it. Even you do, because you have your photograph as your YouTube thumbnail. The prohibition against making sculptures of animals is probably about not giving them the divine worship that belongs only to God. I would also like to point out that in Leviticus, God commands Solomon to make two cherubim above the Ark of the Covenant and sculptures of animals for the temple. And let us not forget the bronze serpent made by Moses. It was removed only when the Israelites began worshipping it instead of God. The Bible does not state definitively which commandment is the first and which is the second, because the wording of the Decalogue differs slightly even between Protestantism, Orthodoxy and Catholicism.
Sławomir Majda
You are simply lying. “You shall not take the name of the Lord your God in vain” is the Second Commandment, among others, according to the Catholic version. Besides, please explain to naive children that you are correcting God because the dimwits would not be able to remember it. Even if we accept your version, the Decalogue still does not contain the words “Jesus, Mother of God”, and so on. Yet prayers to these deities are promoted as fundamental ones.
Paweł M
Mr Sławomir, where exactly did I lie? The First Commandment says, “You shall have no other gods before Me,” and then the Bible contains the passage about not making carved images. Besides, how could the Decalogue mention Mary or Jesus when they lived on earth several centuries later? According to the Bible, Jesus is God, and therefore he is entitled to the worship given to God. What is your problem? Do you not accept the teachings of Jesus? Do you accept the Decalogue? Are you Jewish? Because Jews do not recognize Jesus as the Messiah, but they do recognize the Decalogue.
Sławomir Majda
According to the Mosaic Second Commandment, worshipping Jesus is idolatry because prayers, sculptures and paintings are dedicated to him rather than to God. Or did you notice that on your own, without Matthew?
Paweł M
But we have not been talking about the Second Commandment at all, but about the First….. So why do you suddenly start writing that the Second Commandment concerns the worship of God? The Second Commandment is about not taking the name of the Lord God in vain. The First is about having no other gods before the Lord God. In Christianity, Jesus is considered God, and therefore he is entitled to the same honour and glory as the Father. You may, of course, refuse to regard him as God, but Christians proclaim that he is God, and I am a Christian. Are you Jewish, since you reject the teachings of Jesus and do not understand them at all?
I am the Lord your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of slavery.
1 You shall have no other gods before Me.
2 You shall not take the name of the Lord your God in vain.
We are discussing the First Commandment, not the Second…..
Sławomir Majda
Please first understand the text of the Decalogue and count on your fingers what I am writing about Link.
Paweł M
You are probably Jewish, so you do not recognize Jesus as God and the Saviour of humanity. It is therefore no surprise that you claim that the followers of Christ violate the commandment prohibiting the worship of any God other than the Heavenly Father. Christians, however, believe that they fulfil this commandment because they believe that Jesus is God and is therefore entitled to the same glory and worship as the Father. The video presented here contradicts the Gospels because the information presented in it does not agree with the account known from the Gospels, which means that it does not come from Jesus but from Satan.
Sławomir Majda
How did you determine that the information comes from Satan? Did the two of you speak to each other?
Paweł M
Because the information presented here does not agree with the Gospel. If it came from God, it would agree with it. A simple method.
Sławomir Majda
One may believe in a goat and worship it. Hindus worship lingams — penises — which is just as contrary to the Second Commandment of the Decalogue as the honourable gentleman’s worship of deities.
Paweł M
You are completely unable to respond to messages…. Contact me again when you have learned how to do so. You still do not understand that for Christians Jesus is GOD, and therefore they do not violate the First Commandment of the Decalogue…. And you stubbornly refuse to say whether you are Jewish, an atheist or perhaps a Christian. Since you disagree that Jesus is God, why do you even visit a video concerning Jesus? You are only wasting your time. How can worshipping one God violate the First Commandment of the Decalogue? I do not worship Buddha, Zeus, Hades, Thor or any other deity. I believe in only one God, who revealed Himself in three persons. The fact that you cannot comprehend this is not my fault. Apparently, you are trying forcibly to discredit Jesus. You may disagree with Him, but you have no right to say that Christians violate the Decalogue when they worship Jesus, because they regard Him as the second person of the Holy Trinity. This is ONE GOD, but in three persons. Nor do you have the right to claim that Christians are polytheists. You deal with esotericism, so what are we even discussing…. You do something that God strictly prohibited in the Bible…. Further discussion makes no sense. I advise you to turn away from esotericism and return to worshipping the true God in the proper manner.
Sławomir Majda
The honourable gentleman manipulates facts in a manner typical of fanatics. My statement concerns Mr Gajdziński’s video and refers to Commandment No. 2. Yet you are zealously waging jihad against me by referring to Commandment No. 1, doing so either mindlessly or maliciously.
Paweł M
It is you who keeps writing about the commandment according to which one must not make images or sculptures or worship Jesus as God, and according to my faith that is the First Commandment. But you simply do not understand this, even though I have explained it perhaps four times already. For me, the Second Commandment is not taking the name of God in vain. But you probably will not understand that either, because suddenly you begin saying that you mean the Second Commandment, although it is strange that while writing about the Second Commandment, you accuse me of breaking it by surrounding Jesus with the same worship with which I surround God, even though that is the First Commandment, and the second according to Judaism. A discussion with you is completely pointless because one moment you say one thing and the next something else…. First you accuse Christ of being mistaken and rejecting the Decalogue, and claim that worshipping His person violates the Decalogue, and now suddenly you believe something entirely different….. You are very indecisive.
Sławomir Majda
It is strange that the Decalogue originating from God does not suit you.
Paweł M
The First Commandment or the Second Commandment — what difference does it make? You reject the teachings of Jesus anyway, believe that he was mistaken and do not regard him as God. Which is, of course, absolute heresy, because Jesus was the first to fulfil all the commandments of the Law completely, including the Decalogue. Apparently, you stopped at the Old Testament. That is your choice. But worshipping Jesus does not violate any commandment; rather, the commandments are fulfilled by giving Jesus divine worship. Because He is God. You truly do not understand…. The Decalogue suits me, but I use a different division of the commandments from Protestants or Jews. Nevertheless, I accept the entire Decalogue. But what can you know about it, since you reject Jesus and His teachings and prefer to play with esotericism…
Paweł M
You yourself accused me of the fact that the Decalogue says nothing about Jesus, and yet He is worshipped equally with God the Father, so do not suddenly tell me that you have nothing against Jesus… The Decalogue speaks about worshipping God, and according to Christians Jesus is God… I am writing this for the fifth time already…. Therefore, this commandment is not being broken in any way…. You yourself break it by having photographs of yourself, whether on your phone or developed by a photographer, while the Bible clearly says that we are not to make an image of any living being. If we follow your line of reasoning, this is precisely the conclusion we will reach.
Sławomir Majda
If you have a goat in your home and proclaim it to be God, then according to your way of thinking, this will not be contrary to the Second Commandment either.
Paweł M
Except that Jesus was sent by God, was the promised Messiah, fulfilled almost all the prophecies concerning him and performed miracles that no one else had performed. Why do you even visit a video about Jesus if you do not recognize him as God, as Christians do? Why do you believe in God at all if you treat the Holy Scriptures selectively and have apparently stopped at the Old Testament, while treating the New Testament as some kind of heresy? That is your choice. Further discussion truly makes no sense. I will not try to convince you of anything because you prefer to engage in esotericism rather than believe in the Lord’s Messiah and in God….
Sławomir Majda
I know that Jesus was the Messiah. Except that today he has 300 wives, meaning a harem in Poland. What is more, this is not his first harem, and after all, we all remember that at one time he even distributed his foreskin to virginal nuns as a wedding ring. And this is the material consequence. Probably the only one, and it resulted from breaking the Second Commandment of the Decalogue. His acolytes will one day encounter the consequences of their own promotions.
Sławomir Majda
If you do not see the difference between the First and Second Commandments, or between their versions, then the conclusion is the same as at the beginning — idolatry. Except that it results from poor knowledge and a lack of understanding of the fundamentals.
Paweł M
All right, further conversation with you makes no sense.
You take the truth and present it in the worst possible light, adding inappropriate comments. You blaspheme against Christ, whom you recognize as the Messiah and the Son of God, yet at the same time claim that Christ was mistaken and is not entitled to worship. Bravo — even Satanists would not be ashamed of such blasphemy. God must certainly be pleased with you for fighting against His Son.
Sławomir Majda
I am tired. Once again, you have imagined that I wrote about the Son of God.
Paweł M
The New Testament recognizes Jesus as the Son of God; he himself said so many times. The New Testament also recognizes Jesus as God. How else can one regard Jesus as the Messiah without simultaneously claiming that he is the Son of God? And that he is God? It cannot be done…… But apparently you use a completely different translation of the New Testament…..
Sławomir Majda
Monasticism, which developed around the year 200 AD, resulted in many solitary homosexual men being enclosed behind walls, and this continues to the present day. As demonstrated by the Pope’s current struggle against gay men in the Vatican, or by Polish hierarchs’ support for paedophilia, homosexuality continues to thrive in this environment. The breaking of the Second Commandment of the Decalogue in Poland has also resulted in Polish Hierarchs accused of homosexuality having, in recent years, married approximately 300 Polish women to only one deceased Jew. Had the Decalogue not been broken, there would have been neither this shame among women nor the shame of Poles before the world.
Opublikowano: 23/08/2026
Autor: Sławomir Majda
Kateogrie: Religions, priests, sects, idolatry, vows.
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